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(RD) I think it's pretty clear. However, looking at it now, through the lens of negative bab, it should probably allow more than one piece of ammo to be imbued per swift action (using an equivalent number of bombs or pop rocks, of course). We could instead make the discovery grant the 'alchemical' quality to any projectile weapon, and then you don't have to worry about how much ammo you can imbue. Another problem with this discovery is the fact that alchemists aren't proficient with very many projectiles... perhaps the discovery should also give them proficiency with all martial projectile weapons (they start with simple)? The more I dig into this discovery, the less I like it... maybe we should just delete it. | (RD) I think it's pretty clear. However, looking at it now, through the lens of negative bab, it should probably allow more than one piece of ammo to be imbued per swift action (using an equivalent number of bombs or pop rocks, of course). We could instead make the discovery grant the 'alchemical' quality to any projectile weapon, and then you don't have to worry about how much ammo you can imbue. Another problem with this discovery is the fact that alchemists aren't proficient with very many projectiles... perhaps the discovery should also give them proficiency with all martial projectile weapons (they start with simple)? The more I dig into this discovery, the less I like it... maybe we should just delete it. | ||
well, simple projectiles are light and heavy crossbows, and to be honest, those are kind of awesome now :) | |||
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Revision as of 16:33, 18 November 2020
1st Selective (Feat) 3rd Point-Blank Shot (Feat) 5th Ammo Drop (Feat) 7th Large Target (Feat) 9th Splash Weapon Mastery (Feat) 11th Bomb, Improved (Feat) 13th Arc Slinger (Feat) 15th Prone Slinger (Feat) 17th Rod Whisperer (Feat) 19th Dodge (Feat) 21st Bomb, Mighty (Feat) 23rd Mobility (Feat) 25th Shot on the Run (Feat) 27th Weapon Focus (Feat) - Sling 29th Meta-Extract (Feat) 31st Cataclysm in a Bottle (Feat) 33rd Annus Mirabilis (Feat) 35th Empowering Bomb (Feat)
*good catch, although now that i thought about it, how does bombs and Large Target work? or deadly aim? or combat expertise? should we clarify, or is that what GM's are for?
thinking about it some more, I think we should add a note how bombs and pop rocks interact with slings, slingstaffs, and stonebows. an alky with a stonebow is a VERY interesting build, and the slingstaff might be even moreso. i think alchemical bombs should have a weapon damage component so this interaction with alchemical weapons is clearer. that should also clear up deadly aim...some... combat expertise seems to work just fine with thrown or projectile weapons as written, is that as intended? (i'm thinking yes)
(RD) I think the principle advantage of using a sling, slingstaff, or stonebow with bombs is the range increment increase (which is massive). However, if you think they should also modify the damage of the bombs, I'm open to suggestions (perhaps just a flat 'base weapon damage' of 1, 2, and 3, respectively?)
speaking of projectile weapons, the projectile bomb discovery basically adds a weak version of 'alchemical' to all projectile weapons. would a projectile bomb do ammo damage (say, as a dural skiprock or a broadhead arrow) AND bomb damage? is this obvious and doesn't need clarification? hrrrm.
(RD) I think it's pretty clear. However, looking at it now, through the lens of negative bab, it should probably allow more than one piece of ammo to be imbued per swift action (using an equivalent number of bombs or pop rocks, of course). We could instead make the discovery grant the 'alchemical' quality to any projectile weapon, and then you don't have to worry about how much ammo you can imbue. Another problem with this discovery is the fact that alchemists aren't proficient with very many projectiles... perhaps the discovery should also give them proficiency with all martial projectile weapons (they start with simple)? The more I dig into this discovery, the less I like it... maybe we should just delete it. well, simple projectiles are light and heavy crossbows, and to be honest, those are kind of awesome now :)
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